:) steve bought this beast for 3000 bucks or so. high powered 350 machine. he looked under neath it, and then turned to me and said, "tell me we're not taking this through the new area" i looked underneath, and the frame is tall as shit, and sticks way far down past the body, by a rediculous amount, andbassically there is not very much ground clearance at all, but no big transfer case's or anything else sticking down that would be like an ancor or hook on the ground or something. but a seriously way to long truck, with hardly any ground cleance non the less.... so i really knew it was a horrible idea, and that it was gonna get stuck, but he was bright eyed, and excited so i couldn't bash the mans hopes and dreams. : ) so we went back there, and he got lucky with the tirst plop into the creek. he went a foot or so too far to the right, and mostly skipped the main part his truck would bottom out on. but then of course in the long run he did get stuck there. :) i think we pulled it out with the toyota... maybe. but then he drove it into the flooded creek, and now, over a year later its still sitting in the field. and if we get it running, its a field vehicle! so hopefully we will have vids of this thing romping soon!