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What are “faithless electors” and what could/should they do? Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola, Jimmy Dore, and Alonzo Bodden, hosts of The Young Turks, break it down. Tell us what you think in the comment section below. http://tytnetwork.com/join "For die-hard Democrats holding out hope that they won’t have to live through a Trump presidency, there is a last, incredibly long shot for them latch on to — a surprise twist in the Electoral College. Though Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by 200,000, Trump has won the minimum of 270 electoral votes necessary to be elected president. As of late Wednesday, he had 290 to Clinton’s 228. According to the Constitution, chosen electors of the Electoral College are the real people who will vote for president, when they meet on Dec. 19 in their respective state capitals. However, there is technically nothing stopping any of the electors from voting their conscience and refusing to support the candidate to whom they were bound, or from abstaining from voting altogether. There’s even a name for it: becoming a “faithless elector.””* Read more here: http://nypost.com/2016/11/09/the-one-scenario-that-could-still-get-hillary-into-the-white-house/ Hosts: Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola, Jimmy Dore, Alonzo Bodden Cast: Cenk Uygur, John Iadarola, Jimmy Dore, Alonzo Bodden *** The Largest Online News Show in the World. Hosted by Cenk Uygur and Ana Kasparian. LIVE STREAMING weekdays 6-8pm ET. http://www.tytnetwork.com/live Young Turk (n), 1. Young progressive or insurgent member of an institution, movement, or political party. 2. Young person who rebels against authority or societal expectations. (American Heritage Dictionary) Download audio and video of the full two hour show on-demand + the members-only post game show by becoming a member at http://www.tytnetwork.com/join/. Your membership supports the day to day operations and is vital for our continued success and growth. Get The Young Turks Mobile App Today! Download the iOS version here: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/the-young-turks/id412793195?ls=1&mt=8 Download the Android version here: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tyt
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One of the reasons for the Electoral College is to help negate voter fraud and to give the state's governments some say in the election. The election was never meant to give the entire presidential election process entirely over to the will of the people. Historically, the will of the people have not always been right, as exemplified during the French Revolution.
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I suspect that Hillary Clinton also lost the popular vote IF all of the legitimate votes are counted fairly and votes by illegals/unregistered voters are discarded. Most Democrats are depraved and cheating is a way of life for them.
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Trump owns it ........29 days!
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Now that it's over, Hillary made history once again, this time by having the highest number of faithless electors since 1896!
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Liberals are so funny. You want to change the rules after the game. any voter who votes and isn't aware we use an electoral college is an idiot. And this gives you options. I myself am a Republican. I live in California. I'm very aware it's a blue state. So I didn't even bother voting 4 Trump. I voted for Gary Johnson because I wanted the Liberal Party to get more recognition. Even know Gary Johnson is an idiot.
so keeping all that in mind. You're counting a popular vote based on a system where the popular vote is irrelevant. meaning many people didn't even bother voting if they live in heavily blue or red state. like California! Which happens to be the state that is giving her the popular vote. Take away California and she loses it by 1.2 million. something like 75 million registered voters didn't vote. do you really think the system we have in place didn't effect that?
demanding the Electoral College be changed after the fact is perfectly reasonable. Perhaps there's a better system. Mob rule is definitely not it but it could definitely be modified. but crying foul after the game just because you don't like the outcome is childish. -
A quick question to all of you nouveau popular vote supporters. Seeing as you feel a conglomeration of power and influence shouldn't be weighted...do you also feel it would be fair to charge ALL AMERICANS THE SAME INCOME TAX RATE? Hmmm? Afterall, if heavily populated areas can throw their weight around and the more sparsely populated areas must accept their will, doesn't it seem fair to charge the guy/gal that makes $250,000 yearly the same RATE as the guy/gal that earns $25,000 annually? If all should be treated equally with no "punishing" the centers of power and influence...doesn't it make sense to see to it that ALL AMERICANS pay the same percentage of their income in Federal Taxes?
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the electoral college was improvised in order to induce certain relatively weak colonies/states to sign on to the constitution, by alloting them elective powers disproportionate to their populations; nevertheless, the new usa was torn apart by a civil war less than a century later. the electoral college, and the constitution itself, as written, were designed to found and sustain an agrarian nation of 2.5 million, not a technological empire of 300 million. along with it, i suggest you toss superdelegates, and the far too supreme court. jefferson SAID it (the usa) would have to be reworked at least once a generation; did not happen, and here you are, engulfed in totalitarian plutocracy.
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refreshed (rewritten) at least once each generation; did NOT happen, and here you are, engulfed in a totalitarian plutocracy, headed by a madman.
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Let's be real
1. The goal of the election was never to win the popular vote. Hilary knew this. she didn't spend any time in key states she lost.
2. No one was appaled when she rigged the primaries against a more popular candidate (Bernie Sanders)
3. Electors voting against who there state voted for is the definition of "undermining democracy" -
We are a constitutional republic, ignorant lieing willful child minded simp's. Stop lieing about being a democracy!
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Hillary winning the popular vote means that Hillary lost (Keep listening, f*cking retarded lefties) because Hillary and Trump
both knew that to win the Presidency, they had to win the system as it is now, and Trump won that. Are you saying Hillary is too ignorant of how the vote works to win it? Trump won the game as the rules were, now the lefties want to change the rules, because they are utter lying hypocritical racist violent filth.
If the vote was won by the popular vote, Trump would have run his campaign completely differently, to win that game with those rules, so you can't say that Hillary would still win the popular vote.
Sigh..I'm wasting my time..no lefty will give me a decent response..just attack me or call me names. -
Hysterical. All this time and money to take votes from Trump and all you accomplished was taking votes away from HIllary. As usual every game plan the Dems make backfire.
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FAIL
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Hillary's popularity is growing.... growing ....growing.... *POP!* ........................gone. #LOL
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Young Turks - You fail again.
Seems to be a regular thing these days - doesn't it? -
Trump won liberals ..keep dreaming
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that electoral college is how Clinton got in office, despite the election map being mostly red.
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BaHaHaHaHa, losers!!! Go to your safe space now with your Play-doh, therapy candles, whale sounds, or whatever it is that liberal idiots do. LMAO #liberalssuckballs
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FU TURGAYS!!! Hahaha
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Trump wins with 304...2 votes from Texas went to Paul and Kasich...Clinton lost 5 votes to "faithless" electors... It's over guys...get a grip. Trump Wins...you lose...But he will still be YOUR president.