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Operating a heavy-duty commercial vehicle with Eaton's Super 10 manual transmission. Includes information on proper shifting.
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Never used the clutch, when pushing button forward, push or pull gearshift into neutral, then back into same hole. This gives it time to shift. Downshifting the same, move button back, blip the throttle in neutral to match speed, then back into next lower gear
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wooohooo im done with double clutching now gotta learn how to not double clutch pass my 150 hour training and school
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Ok so although this is counter to the practical shifting many drivers seem to do (that I hear may cause premature transmission wear, but others contest this), why is he engaging the clutch "halfway" (I'd assume it should be all the way, but hopefully someone can also explain this) during the split from 1 to 2 and 3 to 4, but not when he's going from 5 to 6 and on? At 9:49 he does mention this can be done as thought it was done differently at the beginning. I'd like some clarification here. I do not drive trucks, I'm just really curious, heh.
Also, why did the narrator make it seem like shifting from 6th to 7th (he says something about range) was any different from any other gears including a double-clutch (he mentions it in both up and downshifting)?
I completely understand the double-clutching and why it should be done. -
Esta muy bueno pero yo no entiendo el ingles pero si esta bien
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Sorry for the confusion in my post. I forgot that Eaton Fuller calls each gear change with the switch another "gear." From my farm truck days, I'm used to calling the gears 1 thru 5 and then splitting each one as in 1-low and 1-high, etc. I like to think of it that way because in reality that's what you're doing - picking a gear and then changing the output ratio of the transmission with another set of gears. Blah....
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I found this video confusing because if you're used to driving with a low and high range, it's hard to wrap your head around this. The flatbed trucks (farm trucks or grain trucks as they are called) is what I learned to drive "split axle" on. The reason for the shifting of the little lever in each gear is simply because the ratio between the 2 gears in the differential is lower than the ratio between gears in the transmission. You can practice doing this with no clutch, but you have to be gentle. You use the accelerating engine and the loading of the gears to hold the low/hi gears in position. For this to work, you don't want to over-rev the engine and wrap it out because it'll will cause the lo/high gears to slam into gear too hard. Be gentle and professional. The entire trick is to "think ahead" or "shift ahead" and use the loading of the gears to hold the low/high gears in. They will ONLY shift when not under a load so you can use that to your advantage. Try this! So here is how you do it:
1st gear - low
while accelerating (put the gears under a good load) flip the lever into high
then just easily back off the throttle (don't just take your foot off the pedal because the engine will decelerate too quickly and bind the low/high gear cluster)
you'll feel the truck lunge slightly when high gear clicks in
while accelerating (put the gears under a good load) flip it back into low (scary but trust me this works!)
then just let off the throttle easy (like before) and just drop the gear shift into 2nd gear
as it goes into neutral, the loading comes of the low/high gear cluster and it'll drop into low by itself and at the right time! It literally shifts itself when it's ready
then just keep repeating this, shifting from low to high, and high to low one step ahead of where you are at while using gear loading to hold it in the current setting
It's the smoothest shifting without a clutch you'll ever feel. It's awesome and by far my favourite transmission of all time. Downshifting is similar and if anyone would like me to explain, I'd be glad to. Enjoy your Super 10! -
LAZY! That is what people who cant shift call those who can.
Yes, Buck, it is true. The clutch is there for a reason. Use it if you need too.
However, if you PROPERLY shift without the clutch it will do no harm and will save the clutch. Do it wrong and there will be heavy damage.
Dutch, best advice is to loosen up your grip on the stick. A "death" grip will always mess you up. And SLOWDOWN! no need to hurry your shift.
Ray, you will get it. Just relax. Your instructor couldn't explain because, Those who can do, those who can't, teach. -
I've been having some trouble with the down shifting and can't seem to make it seamless and I hate grinding the gears. my instructor couldn't explain it or do it well either without grinding. Any suggestions??
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I am so confused. Drove the super 10 and my instructor couldnt explain it right. He's telling me to only clutch taking off and stopping. Floating the other ones, But I cannot feel when to shift..how to do that?